- Any definition of democracy includes all citizens having equal access to power
- The right of the people to choose their government is inherent to the idea of the republic
- A defining characteristic of any democracy is the suffrage it extends to the people. Suffrage is used to describe not only the legal right to vote, but also to the practical question of the realistic opportunity to vote.
As time has gone by, circumstances have changed, and MYC no longer seems to operate in accordance with some established procedures or in the spirit of certain club policies … maybe because it has become harder to do so. As you probably know, a committee is currently reviewing and re-evaluating the by-laws. Perhaps club policies, rules, and procedures as well as by-laws could use some revision to continue to effectively support our democratic ideals.
I’d like to comment on some democratic operations of the club.
Areas Where We Have Evolved Away From Democracy
2. Sometimes proposals are made during a meeting that were not previewed in the meeting notification or only announced at the last minute, but they are nevertheless decided at the meeting without affording non-attendees adequate opportunity to vote.
3. It appears to me that sometimes the Board wants to act on an issue, but it is reluctant to wait for the next meeting or to call for a special meeting, so they make rule or procedure changes without getting a desirable membership vote.
4. Some Board officers are nominated year after year for the same post, and some further take on multiple non-elected roles.
- Do we want to have democratic administration and, if so…
- What can we about the above procedures that have strayed from that approach?
Based on the recent survey, there are some MYC members who are content with the process as it is, and some even seem to prefer having all club decisions made by the small minority of members who serve on the Board and make it to the meetings on a regular basis. They believe:
- “Although fewer votes are cast by the current system than might be ... the quality of each vote is far greater.” They believe that participating in the discussion that occurs among the members at a meeting is critical to being properly aware of the issues and varying opinions while online discussion, open to all members, is a lesser form of discussion and merely a nice-to-have.
- Some believe that other members or they themselves are either apathetic or content with the status quo, and they believe anyone who wants to participate in decision making has the opportunity to attend meetings and do so. “If they care enough they will find a way to attend.”
- A couple people expressed the opinion that the club is best run by pursuing a consensus (rather than depending on majority rule) and that consensus can best be achieved by a small group at a meeting working face-to-face together.
- Some oppose expanding membership participation in decision making because they want to avoid excessive debate, over-complicating club business, and having to take on the burden of managing a vote that is not as easily conducted as a show of hands at a meeting. Some believe that one voting requirement is that the voting process should involve no more time than it takes to count the raised hands.
- Another group seems open or interested in expanding decision making participation beyond meeting attendees but is unsure how that can be done and done well.
What do YOU think?
Here’s what I think…
I believe there are people who cannot attend meetings and others who choose other priorities over attending MYC meetings, but that they all nevertheless deserve the right to vote. Sometimes a member is out of town, sometimes a member is sick, sometimes a member has a loved one who needs him or her, sometimes spending time with one’s family takes precedence over attending a meeting, sometimes one lacks transportation or it is dangerous to travel, some members have to work or honor other commitments when a meeting is held. Sometimes, a member would just prefer to watch TV than to attend a multi-hour meeting on yacht club matters. Should all these people be denied a vote on issues in which they may have a stake regarding the recreational club to which they pay dues? I don’t think so.
I believe that although one person may contribute less to the club than another person, all voting members in good standing should be able to participate in club decision making. I know that there are many ways to contribute to the club outside of attending meetings, I know that member contributions (and meeting attendance) may fluctuate over the years as personal commitments, priorities, and demands change, I know that meeting attendance does not ensure a member’s good judgment, and I know that many non-attendees are quite well versed on club matters and member opinions. I believe that each member’s vote should be considered equal and that it should not be granted or denied depending on his or her perceived efforts on behalf of the club at the time of a vote.
While appreciating a consensus which also seeks the resolution or mitigation of minority objections, I don’t believe it is a realistic objective in current MYC decision making, even at the sparsely attended business meetings. With the emergence of a large board boat fleet, a growing percentage of non-racing members, and other changes to the membership over time, the club seems less homogenous than it used to be, making consensus harder to achieve. In fact, the discussions at meetings I’ve attended have been very contentious and didn’t even approach a consensus. Furthermore, if I had to choose between a consensus of the meeting attendees or majority rule of the entire club, I’d choose the latter.
So how do we expand the democratic process without introducing too much work, time, or complexity? How do we enable the Board to seek voter approval when a regular meeting is not imminent or one was just recently held but membership input on a new issue is desired? We support membership voting outside meetings. The best way to do this is being explored by a new committee and alternative approaches (e.g. hardcopy balloting and online voting) will be reported back for full membership review and discussion. However, in the last few years, applications supporting online voting have been invented, and we only need look to the recent MYC surveys to envision how online balloting might be supported using these mechanisms.
The survey taken in May to gather membership input on a variety of matters surrounding club participation was far more complicated than a typical vote on a proposal might be. Without any cost to the club, we were able to efficiently obtain, validate, tally, and store member opinions on 26 questions online. The application we used also supports the distribution of reports and the centralized access to the results in summary or in detail, according to our specifications. Although the survey involved no binding decisions and the procedure was unfamiliar, about half of the club’s voting members participated.
Comments anyone?
The Board has agreed that we should no longer be the exclusive Nominating Committee as has been the practice for over 15 years. The Bylaws stated there needs to be a Nominating Committee, which there has been. In the coming selection process the Committee will be members at large with at least one Board member on the Committee. You will see an general memebrship email soliciting memebrs for that committee, as well as solicitng names of people who would like to be considered for Board positions.
ReplyDeleteIf the committee is appointed by the commodore, what is the purpose of having a board member on the committee? What about a former board member? I would think independence from the board is the main idea of a committee to nominate future board members.
ReplyDeleteWhy put a Board member on the Committee?
ReplyDeleteThe Board - per the bylaws - is tasked with managing the Club and its business. The Commodore selects a Nominating Committee and can include who he/she wants on that committee, including a Board member if that is what he/she wants. The Nominating Committee is not meant to work against the Board or in secret from the Board, but like any other committee, it works with the Board. It makes sense to have a person who has to work with the individuals to be included in the discussions on who will be on the Board. Since the Vice Commodore typically moves to the top position the next year, it makes sense for him/her to be on the committee. There may be a time when that does not make sense, but for this time around, that is what will happen and the other memebrs of the committee will be solicited from the membership at large (memo to the membership will follow very soon).
ReplyDeleteI am not aware of any restriction in nominations. If various parties wish to create alternate slates to present at the annual meeting to be considered for election, I believe they can. Could make for a a very entertaining meeting. But I'm not sure that multi-party 21st century American style representive democracy is what we really crave.
ReplyDeleteAnnie-
ReplyDeleteyou have ideas for improving the board election process. Please share them. I thought this was
the forum to do so.
I don't think anyone wants a multi-party American style representative democracy and certainly not "slates" of candidates for the Board. I just want open nomination procedures, not limited by or unnecessarily influenced by current Board preferences. Of course the committee would talk to the Board, but I see no rationale for the Commodore appointing the committee nor for a Board member, by convention, to be on it. I have other ideas about the nomination process, but I'd prefer to put them in a Post rather than as a comment on a Post favoring a more democratic club in general.
ReplyDeleteI'm very glad to hear that there will be a more open nominating process for club officers this year. I think that there is a lot of untapped talent out there with new and creative ideas to help the club better serve its members. I would like to see a diverse nominating committee helping to result in a diverse Board, but I would hope that the nominating committee would not include anyone who might wish to run in the following election due to the obvious conflict of interest.
ReplyDeleteRe Mike's earlier comment implying that I support a "multi-party 21st century American style representive democracy"...
ReplyDeleteI repeat that I’m in favor of democracy for the club, but that does not mean I want a party system, executive, judicial and legislative branches, etc. MYC is not a nation and shouldn’t be modelled on the US government, nor is it a large or for profit corporation needing delegated management. It may be incorporated to limit member liability and we may employ a Board to administer the daily operations, but its original creation seems to have been an attempt to form a cooperative, and that implies the use of democratic procedures.
From Wikipedia:
“A cooperative is defined … as an autonomous association of persons united voluntarily to meet their common economic, social, and cultural needs and aspirations through a jointly-owned and democratically-controlled enterprise.”
“In the USA, cooperatives are often organized as non-capital stock corporations….”
“Cooperatives are based on the co-operative values of "self-help, self-responsibility, democracy and equality …."
from Webster's:
ReplyDelete1 a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
we seem to meet definition b. pretty well. democracy does not enforce participation by the people. they have the power, and the right, vote. it is unfortunate that it is not exercised. anything we can do to improve this is very welcome. but I disagree that we are not a democracy. we just might not be a very good one!
No one is advocating ENFORCING participation by the people, just affording the opportunity to vote to ALL. You cannot deny that some people are unable to make a given MYC meeting and therefore, do not have the opportunity to participate in any votes taken there. (It's time to stop saying that everyone could always make a meeting if they cared enough.)
ReplyDeleteAt the same time, I'm sure many members could attend meetings who choose not to. Most of these are willingly choosing not to attend the meeting, but are reluctantly sacrificing their right to vote. Why must they be forced to make that choice? Attending a meeting typically means giving up several hours, and the meetings are often contentious. Do we want to deny the vote to people who want to avoid that? Only those willing to attend the meeting DESERVE a vote? How different is this practice from only giving the vote to those willing to pay a poll tax or passing a literacy test?
A democracy must include the equal access of ALL constituents to a vote. That's at the core of the term, and we don't yet have that at MYC.
The people attending meetings who can vote are not representing those who cannot. No one is asking them to, but everyone should be able to cast a vote. If we had absentee voting and/or online voting available to all, there would no doubt continue to be many who'd choose to abstain. The quality of democracy is not measured so much by the percentage of the people who vote as by the number given REALISTIC OPPORTUNITY to vote. We CAN do it. Why NOT do it?
I've been a member for a lot of years. I've been to meetings, many, and missed many. I truely feel that things of topic are discussed in great detail at the meetings and my thoughts have been swayed/changed by these discussions. By voting in proxy without hearing these discussions may not pose the wisest and/or informed vote.
ReplyDeleteWe are such a small group, even smaller the participating members, there must be an easier answer to meeting attendence. Perhaps as part of sunday dinners, or as part of the work parties.
In all honesty i think most of the membership is pretty happy with the way the club functions and trusts the boards choices of that year. If you disagree get on the board or come to the meetings and change it up.
Rich Hirsch
The discussion at meetings is valuable and should be read in the minutes by online voters if we do institute electronic voting. But why is everyone so upset about the prospect of someone missing meeting discussion (which is reported in minutes), but not upset about missing entirely the input from those who are not at the meeting?
ReplyDeleteWhether or not we are happy with the decisions that have been made in the past, why not allow more members to participate in the decisions of the future?
Our club seems to be changing a bit from a group club with racing and social events as the common bind to a more individual famaliy beach/boating club. This becomes more evident as the years pass and many new faces appear with no names. The meetings were/are a good way to get to know people. Everything you do to keep people from gathering in group moves them further from the core. We have used the meetings as ways to get commitments, volenters, project heads...we at times force particpation when looking someone in the eye. Words on a page reflect no emotions, prohibits immediate feedback, and is cloaking.
ReplyDeleteWe are a club, a group of freinds, not words on a page. Lets find better, easier ways to gather than ways to remain seperate.
Rich Hirsch